Finke River Gorge

Submitted: Friday, May 24, 2024 at 16:34
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Hi All,
We are planning a trip in July/August and as part of that we are heading to Palm Valley and then down the Finke River gorge ultimately to Uluru and we were wondering if anyone has gone from Palm Valley to Boggy Hole (and beyond) via the Finke River, rather than going back from Palm Valley to Hermannsberg and onto the Boggy Hole access road? A study of satelite imagery shows what appears to be a track from the Palm Valley turn off at Finke River, all the way to the Boggy Hole access road. Thanks in advance.
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Reply By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Friday, May 24, 2024 at 18:23

Friday, May 24, 2024 at 18:23
Yes just keep following the main track south.

Then eventually you will come out on the main Ernest Giles Road.

Turn left if you want to go via the Stuart Highway, or right if you want to go via Luritja Road.

Hitting this road you can either turn left to the main Lassetter Highway, or right in you want to check out Kings Canyon.

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Follow Up By: Anthony B13 - Monday, May 27, 2024 at 08:34

Monday, May 27, 2024 at 08:34
Hi Stephen, brilliant! Thank you for the response and info. Safe travels.
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Reply By: Member - PhilD_NT - Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 01:09

Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 01:09
Are you talking of continuing on from the right-hand turn into Palm Valley from the Finke River and continuing down the Finke Rvr to what was called Junction waterhole where the Finke and Ellery Ck meet? Attached pic from Exploroz.

If you are, as far as I know this route was closed in the late 70's due to Ranger's being sick of rescuing traveler's from what was near enough to quicksand stretches. I never heard of it being opened again to the public. There may have been others who did it later with special approval though.

While working in Alice, some of us did do that route and then back north from that junction. One of the local staff members there led us through it. Some of the route was along the river bed and at other points there was a noticable track along the side.

We were following someone else's vehicle track at one point when the tracks suddenly disappeared and seemed not to have reversed out. We did jokingly consider whether the vehicle sank without any trace. At another point I was walking along the sand and then the next step had a leg suddenly down to the knee. No noticeable diference to the surface to show what was to happen.

It was a great drive and quite scenic, with an overnight camp halfway. It wasn't without a couple of problems though but a short tow, a spade and a Tirfor got us through. I'll find a couple of pictures to show what I mean.

Not because of us though, but it wasn't long after that they closed off the route.
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Follow Up By: Anthony B13 - Monday, May 27, 2024 at 08:37

Monday, May 27, 2024 at 08:37
Hi PhilD, great info, thank you. Some of the other responses suggest it may be open again, but your info on the track condition is very helpful and if we take that route will definitely be something we need to be vigilant of, especially as we are solo. Thanks again and we would love to see those photos.
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Follow Up By: Member - PhilD_NT - Monday, May 27, 2024 at 11:35

Monday, May 27, 2024 at 11:35
Hi Anthony, I can find no map on the NT Government Parks site that shows a road or track taking that path, or even references it. Likewise, Exploroz has no track shown on EOTOPO.

As to going there, you would have to approach the NT Parks people to find out if they would allow it. I have thought about it in the past and maybe the Outback 4wd Club in Alice may be a really good group to approach for info. They have a Facebook page or email them at outback4wdclub@gmail.com

From my experience, recovery if you have trouble would be quite expensive and travelling with a group such as that local Club would be the best way to tackle it, even if you were allowed to go that route anyway.

I found a couple of photos, and I may have more but they would be buried in a large number of slides that I haven't looked at or scanned in a long time. About the attached one's, there was a fair amount of water in places when we went through and a lot of soft sand, some as I described earlier were impassable. I was following the other vehicle and catching up to him and finally had to stop. It didn't take long to get out thankfully, but the manual gearbox wasn't the greatest in those conditions. Bearing in mind that it had aftermarket front and rear diff locks and still had issues. The other picture is part of the track that bypasses some more troublesome stretches of riverbed and likely more overgrown in the decades since.

Just like the Hermannsburg to Plam Valley stretch of the Finke River, it all changes after any flooding.

If you do find out more, or get to go there, then it would be good to hear about it and see any pictures.
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Follow Up By: Anthony B13 - Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 08:07

Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 08:07
Hi PhilD, I have to say I have always had a soft spot for the old Range Rovers...Yes part of the reason I posted this was because I could find very little on this section of the Finke River. Interestingly Hema maps have it marked as a track, the same grade as the Boggy Hole Access track. I did find a YouTube video of a couple that got lost coming from the South, got to the Ellery Ck and Finke River junction and turned left to keep following this track...they didn't get very far.
That's a great tip on the Outback 4wd Club in Alice, not a massive Facebook fan, but will definitely reach out to see if they can offer any advice. In the meantime, we are well set up, need to be as we always travel alone and as such are very risk aware. Unless the club in Alice advise otherwise, we will stick our nose down there, see what it's like and if it starts to look too crazy we'll go back the Hermannseberg way. Thanks for the advice mate, much appreciated.
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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 07:47

Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 07:47
Hi Anthony B13,

Whilst it was back in 2004, we did exactly what you are looking to do. It is a great drive. The road/track was in pretty good condition then, but that was 2004. It is a mixture of gravel road/track and sand, you cross the river a few times. As Stephen has said, when you reach the Ernst Giles Road, turn right to take you to the Luritja Road. The Ernst Giles Road can be corrugated and has a couple of sandy patches. When you reach the Luritja Road, turn left to take you to the Lasseter Highway, and turn right onto the Lasseter Highway to take you to Yulara, and Uluru.

Have a great trip.

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Follow Up By: Anthony B13 - Monday, May 27, 2024 at 08:42

Monday, May 27, 2024 at 08:42
Hi Macca, thanks for the response and the great info. We are definitely getting some mixed responses here but it seems it will defeinitely be worth a look. We have the time, and the patience...We are no stranger to the corrrugations that ripple thir way along some of our greatest roads, I have just gone from Tough Dob suspension all round to Oztec, after years on the previous naively thinking they were quality gear. My godlike mechanic advised me to go Oztec and the difference is incredible...but i digress. That is exactly the way we will be going and we cannot wait. What we have heard about this part of the Red Centre sounds simply incredible. Safe travels and thanks again!
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Reply By: packeteer - Tuesday, Jun 25, 2024 at 19:22

Tuesday, Jun 25, 2024 at 19:22
I drove down the river bed in 2013. Even back then, most maps no longer showed the route as it was officially closed. I actually had an old guy tell me all about the track, so knew what to expect.
At the time there was a string acting as a gate, and no signage, so we untied it, drove through and re-tied.
It was a great drive, if a little sketchy at times, and definitely no exits along the way. You'd want to make sure there had been no rain recently, or forecast.
We tried to stay to the side in old vehicle ruts which had almost disappeared. Other than the awesome scenery, the only thing we saw was dingo tracks.

Would love to do it again, but no idea on current state. It would prob be to wet now.
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Follow Up By: Anthony B13 - Wednesday, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:30

Wednesday, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:30
Hi Packeteer, thanks for the follow up on this, very much appreciated. We have found a small number of brief Youtube videos that correlate with your experience, specifically the difficulty navigating that part of the river bed.
Have no idea what weather there is like currently, but we will certainly be keeping a close eye on it from now given we are getting closer to trip day. Our intention is to poke the nose of the little DMAX down there, see what it looks like and if we have any doubts turn her back around and go the more conventional way through Hermannsberg.
Wish us luck and if we make it back, we will be sure to update all.
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