Nighthawk M6

Submitted: Saturday, Jun 08, 2024 at 20:37
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Hi all,
Was wondering if you need an antenna for the Nighthawk M6 when running it in your vehicle?
Just purchased the M6 haven’t been out yet.
Thanks for your assistance
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Frosty
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Reply By: TrevorDavid - Saturday, Jun 08, 2024 at 21:09

Saturday, Jun 08, 2024 at 21:09
Frosty

If it’s a Netgear Nighthawk M6 Pro you are referring to, they work without an antenna, just need to find the best location for the signal. That’s said an antenna would help drag in better signal.

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Jun 08, 2024 at 22:58

Saturday, Jun 08, 2024 at 22:58
They have two internal antennas so they will operate on MIMO connection to the cell transmitter.. Using the external antenna connectors is optional.
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Follow Up By: Briste - Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 08:42

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I've got an M2, and I have contemplated getting a compact MIMO antenna. Can anyone advise how much this improves the signal in areas where it's a bit weak?
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Reply By: Member - Cuppa - Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 12:13

Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 12:13
Hope no-one minds a bit of a thread hijack. It's sort of related.

Our truck came with a MIMO router installed, connected to a large fold up mast antenna on the roof.

It is a 'Silentwind Webcatcher'.

I may have acted prematurely in removing it, in light of us planning to install Starlink.

My thinking was it was that it was obsolete technology, but mention above about MIMO suggests to me that perhaps it could be useful after all? And maybe I should re-install it?

Any comments welcome.
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Follow Up By: Briste - Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 12:51

Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 12:51
If you find yourself camped in a heavily tree-ed area, so that SL struggles with obstructions, but with a weak phone signal, then a MIMO antenna may be useful for pulling that signal in. I assume the router takes a SIM?

You mentioned "installing" SL. If you mean a flat mount on the roof of the OKA then that could make the tree problem worse, or more frequent. One advantage of keeping SL as a stand alone unit is you have more scope to park in the shade.

I have not "installed", and sometimes rather than setting it up it's just easier to use the Nighthawk M2 modem where there's a decent signal from the carrier which is not our main one, i.e. in our mobiles. Another reason to keep the MIMO setup. But it has to be a decent signal, given that SL is fast and unlimited.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:15

Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:15
Don't bother reinstalling it. It does not operate on the mobile telephone networks. Flyer_Web-Catcher_EN_2018 - that is a link to their brochure. It describes itself as a Long Distance Wi-Fi Outdoor WLAN Omni-Antenna. It works on the 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi bands. About the only time it would be useful for you is if you were camped near an establishment that has public Wi-Fi. It just picks up a signal that is too weak for the Wi-Fi adaptor in your computer or tablet to receive.

About the only time I could have used it was when I was camped at Carnarvon Gorge (Takaraka CP.) They had a satellite internet service where you went to the café area and connected to their W-Fi to access the system. With your system, I would have been able to access their Wi-Fi from my caravan instead of having to go for a walk every time I desired to use the internet.

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Follow Up By: Member - Cuppa - Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:31

Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:31
Thanks Briste & Peter.

No it doesn't have a sim card, & my belief had been that it operates just as Peter suggests, & thus of very limited value for us.

Perhaps it was of more use for the previous owners travelling in Europe & South America?

Seeing it still advertised & for quite a high price caused me to wonder if I was missing something in regard to what it provides.

If anyone here has a use for it though, I'd be happy to let you have it (router/antenna & cables) for cost of postage, rather than me tossing it out. The antenna length might push the postage cost up bit though.

In regard to installing Starlink, no I am not intending to mount the dish(y) on the roof. It will be a Gen 3 Starlink (unless the rumoured Starlink mini comes out very soon & looks 'good enough'). In fact I have already bought a 12v power supply for a gen 3 (is in the mail) to avoid the 2.5amp 'overhead our 3000w inverter has. Also intend using the standard Gen 3 router, mounted in an external cabinet (bin) to overcome any possibility of our aluminium honeycomb body being an effective faraday cage & preventing getting a signal out for a reasonable distance (Think blogging whilst sitting in the shade of a tree, on a hot day).
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Follow Up By: Briste - Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:53

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I've not seen any reports of the range of the Gen 3 router, but the Gen 2 range is not all that good. It's fast when you're close enough. I bought an inexpensive Grandstream router to go with my 12V power supply, because Spacetek were selling it so I took that as a seal of approval, and by golly the range is outstanding! You might find you need something similar to reach the shade.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:53

Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:53
" Not even sure if it creates a wifi inside the vehicle (It had an ethernet lead coming out of it)"

The picture at the bottom of the brochure indicates it does. The stick (antenna) on the mast of the yacht operates on WLAN 1and the modem in the stick decodes the RF signal and sends the data down the Ethernet cable to the router in the boat. The data signal received from the Ethernet cable is re-coded onto WLAN 2 and the devices in the boat work from WLAN 2.

In a way, it acts like a Wi-Fi range extender in your premises does.




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Follow Up By: Member - Cuppa - Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:55

Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:55
The Gen 3 is said to have better range. The 12v supply (for Gen 3 only) is from Spacetetek, so good to get your nod of approval on them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cuppa - Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:59

Sunday, Jun 09, 2024 at 13:59
Thanks Peter, I noted the blue concentric circles on the flyer after I'd posted, & edited out the bit about the ethernet cable from my post, but not quick enough as you had already read it & were obviously replying.

Neverthless keeping it would be of little to no value to us.
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