Using station tracks shown in EoTopo & Satellite imagery
Submitted: Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 12:56
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Member - peter_mcc
I'm planning (dreaming?) of trip heading south from Mt Isa in the middle of next year. Looking at EoTopo/Traveller and satellite imagery I can see lots of tracks that take shortcuts across otherwise "blank" areas. How do I work out if I can use them and/or who to contact to get permission?
For example, I'd like to cut south from
Fountain Springs to
Duchess via some of the old
Burke & Wills Camp 99 and
Burke & Wills Camp 98 (tracks visible on satellite imagery) or cut across to
Devoncourt(via tracks on EoTopo/Traveller).
I'm guessing they are station tracks.
Using Queensland Globe I can find the name of the stations who's land I'd be passing through -
https://qldglobe.information.qld.gov.au/?topic=property - turn on the "Property Names" layer then zoom in a bit. You might want to turn off things like lot numbers and council boundaries.
Some of the stations have websites with contact details I can find on the web. Some I can't find anything about.
How does it work getting permission? Do I just ring up and say "hi can I drive on your tracks"
well in advance? Do I ask for anyone in particular? Email them my plans & ask? Drop in when I'm nearby (which would be asking for forgiveness rather than permission because they are at the end of my track usage)? Sneak through and hope nobody notices?
Has anyone got any tips?
Perhaps related to that, how do I tell if something is a public road or a station track? EoTopo, Google Maps, QLD topo maps, etc all show lots of roads. Some are public but I think some are not - is there any easy way to tell? Could I assume if Traveller or Google Maps sends me down a road that it is ok to travel?
Reply By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 16:17
Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 16:17
You have raised a very valid point and unfortunately some of the tracks shown on the EO maps are private and are not for public use. This can cause a major issue with your insurance company if you come to grief on a non public/private road.
For this very reason, I contacts another major map producer here in Australia and asked this very question and their reply was very simply.
For legal reason, the major competitor only shows roads and tracks that can legally be driven on by the public, as they are
well aware there are far more tracks out there that are private.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cuppa - Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 20:06
Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 20:06
The other major map producer, presumably Hema? may
well do as you suggest, but they also tend , when there are multiple tracks, all kosher to travel on, & generally meeting up again after a while, to show the 'main one in use' only. Occasionally this usage changes & if relying on that now 'incorrect one' can cause some degree of uncertainty, and/or anxiety. Having the Exploroz map with the other tracks shown is very helpful in those circumstances.
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Reply By: Member - Cuppa - Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 19:52
Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 19:52
We take the view that if a track is shown on the map & doesn't have a
locked gate or a
sign saying 'Private Keep out' (or similar) then it is likely a public right of way. That doesnt mean that we won't ask for permission if that is a practical thing to do.
Sometimes the the track passes a
homestead, & on occasions we have stopped to ask, or called them up on the UHF. This on occasions has seen us receive directions to a
nice camp site we wouldn't otherwise have know about.
Only once did we get into 'trouble'. There were no signs & no locked gates, but we did pass through a few gates which were shut (leaving the as we found them of course). After something like 20 or 30kms we found that we had begun to go off the line on the map a little & stopped at a
Y Junction. A car at some stockyards in the distance, a red Patrol I recall, driven by a rather grumpy old fella left the yards & came to where we were.
He asked what we thought we were doing there, clearly not happy about our presence.
I was trying to explain we were following 'this track on the map'. He interupted me saying " This track ain't been used for forty fu*kin' years" & said "I'll take you back to the main road". I countered this by assuring him we didn't wish to inconvenience him & could find our own way back with ease. "No, you'll follow me" he said in a manner which clearly indicated we werent being given a choice. . As we passed the
homestead another car pulled out to be behind us. It was clear we were being escorted off the property. As we reached the final
gate the chap in front pulled over to open the
gate & subsequetly turned around to drive back in the direction of the
homestead after shutting the
gate once we & our rear escort had passed through it.
Reaching the road I pulled up & the car behind pulled up along side us. I got out & approached saying something like "
Well that was all a bit unexpected". "Oh don't worry about it" the chap said. "Ee's a grumpy ol' bastard, one of two brothers who live on their own up there. I agist some cattle on their place. Ee'll love telling that story about a couple of crazy tourists drivin' into his place down at the pub for years to come" & winked. We shook hands & he drove off in one direction & us in the other.
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Reply By: IvanTheTerrible - Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 20:23
Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 20:23
If it isn't named then treat it as private. Exploreoz is useless for identifying private tracks, use Hema instead as they list them as private or MVO. DO NOT USE GOOGLE SATTELITE! A group of 4x4s decided to drive from Mt Freeling to
Arkaroola on a private road and collided with a side by side and injured 2 occupants. The station is now trying to restrict access on Umberatana road because of this. The amount of people trying to drive from
Arkaroola to Hawkers
gate has left the station manager very angry.
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Reply By: Member - peter g28 - Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 20:35
Friday, Dec 05, 2025 at 20:35
Personally, I find getting the permission of the landowner is the way to go, in this case I wanted to visit a B&W site located on private property, so I rang the local Tourist Infomation centre. I gave the info they requested and within the week I received an email with the name and phone number of number of the property owner...so I spoke with them personally.
Now some property owners do not want people trekking across their land as they are a working station, in this case, I go to plan B or go different way or disregard the location all together and put it on the back burner..to be looked at later on.
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